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		<title>By: rick h</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.rockthevote.com/2005/04/its-not-about-money-its-about-priorities.html/comment-page-2#comment-592</link>
		<dc:creator>rick h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2005 07:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Hans,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was at Marla Ruzicka&#039;s memorial service here in San Francisco Monday nite. It was so wonderful. Hundreds of her friends, family members, political colleagues, were there to say Goodbye to this magical, progressive, caring, young woman who gave so much to all of us in such a short time she was with us. Thankfully her work in Afganistan and Iraq will live on through the organization she founded.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Rick Hauptman</description>
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<p>I was at Marla Ruzicka&#8217;s memorial service here in San Francisco Monday nite. It was so wonderful. Hundreds of her friends, family members, political colleagues, were there to say Goodbye to this magical, progressive, caring, young woman who gave so much to all of us in such a short time she was with us. Thankfully her work in Afganistan and Iraq will live on through the organization she founded.</p>
<p>Rick Hauptman</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.rockthevote.com/2005/04/its-not-about-money-its-about-priorities.html/comment-page-2#comment-462</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, thank you for that informative speech on exactly how important it is that us silly youth stop believing everything we hear.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Oh, gee, I&#039;m so golly grateful that you&#039;ve warned me of the evil dangers those dirty Republicans support. It seems to me that this entire speech is about as valid as anyone saying that welfare only helps crackheads and prostitutes. (What with three-fourths of it going to those lazy, horrible kids out there.)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.willisms.com/archives/2005/04/rock_the_votes.html &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Rock the knowledge, THEN the vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, thank you for that informative speech on exactly how important it is that us silly youth stop believing everything we hear.</p>
<p>Oh, gee, I&#8217;m so golly grateful that you&#8217;ve warned me of the evil dangers those dirty Republicans support. It seems to me that this entire speech is about as valid as anyone saying that welfare only helps crackheads and prostitutes. (What with three-fourths of it going to those lazy, horrible kids out there.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.willisms.com/archives/2005/04/rock_the_votes.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.willisms.com/archives/2005/04/rock_the_votes.html</a> </p>
<p>Rock the knowledge, THEN the vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.rockthevote.com/2005/04/its-not-about-money-its-about-priorities.html/comment-page-2#comment-449</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2005 02:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those of you who say &quot;Social Security should be a guaranteed safety net for all Americans&quot; as your argument against reform:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;What&#039;s the point of having that safety net, if you have to pay substantially higher taxes throughout your lifetime just to get the same benefit that people get now for substantially less taxes?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Rock the Vote is promoting a scam. A flat out scam that threatens to screw over our entire generation. Under reform, there still would be a guaranteed benefit, everything would be entirely voluntary, and YOU would decide- FOR YOURSELF- whether you want to try to increase your benefit by investing in stocks or not. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Rock the Vote is trying to play on our generation&#039;s stupidity and ignorance, all because it wants to promote the same partisan politics that the AARP does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those of you who say &#8220;Social Security should be a guaranteed safety net for all Americans&#8221; as your argument against reform:</p>
<p><b>What&#8217;s the point of having that safety net, if you have to pay substantially higher taxes throughout your lifetime just to get the same benefit that people get now for substantially less taxes?</b></p>
<p>Rock the Vote is promoting a scam. A flat out scam that threatens to screw over our entire generation. Under reform, there still would be a guaranteed benefit, everything would be entirely voluntary, and YOU would decide- FOR YOURSELF- whether you want to try to increase your benefit by investing in stocks or not. </p>
<p>There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Rock the Vote is trying to play on our generation&#8217;s stupidity and ignorance, all because it wants to promote the same partisan politics that the AARP does.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.rockthevote.com/2005/04/its-not-about-money-its-about-priorities.html/comment-page-1#comment-448</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2005 02:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rock the Vote shows unparalleled political partisanship here, and it&#039;s doing nothing more than hurting our generation. Why is Rock the Vote selling us out like this?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m sure that the writers for Rock the Vote are well informed, and know full well that they&#039;re using sources that are deliberately biased to the left. Both sources cited in this blog article use sources that are very clearly against Social Security reform on political grounds.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you&#039;re going to use biased sources, please point out the bias. Many people in our generation do not have the time to do this research themselves, and they&#039;re being misled by Rock the Vote&#039;s blind partisanship.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;It is very true that Social Security is 100% funded for the next 40 years or so- if you take into account the Social Security trust fund bonds, which are NOT paid for currently. Paying for these bonds will require government revenue, which requires either tax increases, deficit increases, or benefit cuts for Social Security.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is why personal retirement accounts are so important. By raising the rate of return, the system will have to pay out less money, thus not demanding so much money from the trust fund. Rock the Vote is passing a deliberate partisan myth that stands to increase taxes substantially for our generation- all so they can receive the same amount of benefits that people receive now.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That, my friends, is not fair. Rock the Vote, you have sold us out, and it is incredible that you people actually engage in this blindly partisan stance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rock the Vote shows unparalleled political partisanship here, and it&#8217;s doing nothing more than hurting our generation. Why is Rock the Vote selling us out like this?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that the writers for Rock the Vote are well informed, and know full well that they&#8217;re using sources that are deliberately biased to the left. Both sources cited in this blog article use sources that are very clearly against Social Security reform on political grounds.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to use biased sources, please point out the bias. Many people in our generation do not have the time to do this research themselves, and they&#8217;re being misled by Rock the Vote&#8217;s blind partisanship.</p>
<p><b>It is very true that Social Security is 100% funded for the next 40 years or so- if you take into account the Social Security trust fund bonds, which are NOT paid for currently. Paying for these bonds will require government revenue, which requires either tax increases, deficit increases, or benefit cuts for Social Security.</b></p>
<p>This is why personal retirement accounts are so important. By raising the rate of return, the system will have to pay out less money, thus not demanding so much money from the trust fund. Rock the Vote is passing a deliberate partisan myth that stands to increase taxes substantially for our generation- all so they can receive the same amount of benefits that people receive now.</p>
<p>That, my friends, is not fair. Rock the Vote, you have sold us out, and it is incredible that you people actually engage in this blindly partisan stance.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are free to try to end poverty in the best way you see fit, for as many folks as you can, with your own money, but who gives you the right to use other people&#039;s money? Perhaps, others feel that simply throwing money at a problem never solves anything.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Perhaps, there are better ways to use  the 12% that gets taken out of every paycheck, than having a bureaucratic robin hood take from the &#039;rich&#039; and distribute to the &#039;poor&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are free to try to end poverty in the best way you see fit, for as many folks as you can, with your own money, but who gives you the right to use other people&#8217;s money? Perhaps, others feel that simply throwing money at a problem never solves anything.</p>
<p>Perhaps, there are better ways to use  the 12% that gets taken out of every paycheck, than having a bureaucratic robin hood take from the &#8216;rich&#8217; and distribute to the &#8216;poor&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.rockthevote.com/2005/04/its-not-about-money-its-about-priorities.html/comment-page-1#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 01:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fail-safe is the U.S. economy. The fail-safe is a promise issued by the U.S. government that it has never yet failed to fulfill. If the U.S. government stops meeting its Social Security promises, it will be because the whole country has already gone down the hole. Your dollar bills won&#039;t even be worth anything.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Your post reminds me that the Social Security debate really is about whether we want a program that reduces poverty. Maybe you don&#039;t want to end poverty for anyone but yourself. I do, and that&#039;s why I Love Social Security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fail-safe is the U.S. economy. The fail-safe is a promise issued by the U.S. government that it has never yet failed to fulfill. If the U.S. government stops meeting its Social Security promises, it will be because the whole country has already gone down the hole. Your dollar bills won&#8217;t even be worth anything.</p>
<p>Your post reminds me that the Social Security debate really is about whether we want a program that reduces poverty. Maybe you don&#8217;t want to end poverty for anyone but yourself. I do, and that&#8217;s why I Love Social Security.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.rockthevote.com/2005/04/its-not-about-money-its-about-priorities.html/comment-page-1#comment-409</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are no safeguards. There are no fail-safes. What you are looking for in SS doesn&#039;t exist. SS could fail sooner, or it could fail later. You are presenting an illusion. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The government is attempting to manage my money for me. Why? Is that the role of government? Maybe I want to help the elderly, or the poor - maybe not. However, it should be my choice. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also, why is RTV taking a partisan stance? Is the purpose of RTV to get young people to vote, or to push specific agendas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no safeguards. There are no fail-safes. What you are looking for in SS doesn&#8217;t exist. SS could fail sooner, or it could fail later. You are presenting an illusion. </p>
<p>The government is attempting to manage my money for me. Why? Is that the role of government? Maybe I want to help the elderly, or the poor &#8211; maybe not. However, it should be my choice. </p>
<p>Also, why is RTV taking a partisan stance? Is the purpose of RTV to get young people to vote, or to push specific agendas?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 03:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, this Anonymous poster rocks.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;here&#039;s just one thing to think about: Will we have a Guaranteed retirement benefit? Will our parents have a Guaranteed benefit? It all comes down to that basic idea: A guaranteed benefit for all of us. Social Security is the foundation of our financial security. It isn&#039;t how we make a million, it is the foundation of our security. Win or lose, we have a check coming to us that will keep us out of poverty when we can no longer work.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Rarely do you see the core ideas of Social Security articulated so directly.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I couldn&#039;t agree more.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The fundamental question we are dealing with is, how much of a guarantee should we have?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Those of us who believe in Social Security say that America needs a baseline, a safeguard, something that provides a floor you can&#039;t fall through.  And its not a welfare level benefit---its something that can keep the middle class secure while lifting up the poor.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That gaurantee should be about what it is today---Social Security---not less.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Private investing is good.  Its necessary.  But Social Security is different and it must survive!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Viva Social Security!&lt;br/&gt;We Love Social Security!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, this Anonymous poster rocks.</p>
<p>&#8220;here&#8217;s just one thing to think about: Will we have a Guaranteed retirement benefit? Will our parents have a Guaranteed benefit? It all comes down to that basic idea: A guaranteed benefit for all of us. Social Security is the foundation of our financial security. It isn&#8217;t how we make a million, it is the foundation of our security. Win or lose, we have a check coming to us that will keep us out of poverty when we can no longer work.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rarely do you see the core ideas of Social Security articulated so directly.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
<p>The fundamental question we are dealing with is, how much of a guarantee should we have?</p>
<p>Those of us who believe in Social Security say that America needs a baseline, a safeguard, something that provides a floor you can&#8217;t fall through.  And its not a welfare level benefit&#8212;its something that can keep the middle class secure while lifting up the poor.</p>
<p>That gaurantee should be about what it is today&#8212;Social Security&#8212;not less.</p>
<p>Private investing is good.  Its necessary.  But Social Security is different and it must survive!</p>
<p>Viva Social Security!<br />We Love Social Security!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 02:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get yor financials straight. I know that a lot of us young people don&#039;t have a lot to invest, so we don&#039;t know the basics, but here is a super simple primer for you: DIVERSIFY. That means that not all of your income is subject to the same risk. Social Secuurity is not all we have to live on for our retirement. It is the solid, insured, low-risk part of our portfolio. We must use our wits to rise above that level with the remainder of our money. But, witless or lucky, we will Never live in abject poverty because Social Security will be there for us. That&#039;s what the current debate is about. Do we want to ensure that no one lives in poverty after they can no longer work? Do we want to ensure that children whose mother or foather have been crippled or killed stay out of abject poverty? This is not about creating the most lucrative system for You; it is about Keeping the most solid system for Everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get yor financials straight. I know that a lot of us young people don&#8217;t have a lot to invest, so we don&#8217;t know the basics, but here is a super simple primer for you: DIVERSIFY. That means that not all of your income is subject to the same risk. Social Secuurity is not all we have to live on for our retirement. It is the solid, insured, low-risk part of our portfolio. We must use our wits to rise above that level with the remainder of our money. But, witless or lucky, we will Never live in abject poverty because Social Security will be there for us. That&#8217;s what the current debate is about. Do we want to ensure that no one lives in poverty after they can no longer work? Do we want to ensure that children whose mother or foather have been crippled or killed stay out of abject poverty? This is not about creating the most lucrative system for You; it is about Keeping the most solid system for Everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 02:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s just one thing to think about: Will we have a Guaranteed retirement benefit? Will our parents have a Guaranteed benefit? It all comes down to that basic idea: A guaranteed benefit for all of us. Social Security is the foundation of our financial security. It isn&#039;t how we make a million, it is the foundation of our security. Win or lose, we have a check coming to us that will keep us out of poverty when we can no longer work. I know I, for one, am living check to check. I&#039;d love to save a bit, but it&#039;s damned hard. I don&#039;t make much, and I&#039;m not even paying rent, because I save by living with my parents. How could someone like me, or like you, afford retirement? I hope I can make it even yet, that I can provide for myself and those to come, but if my bets go wrong, thank heaven I have a 100% secure income foundation - Social Security. It will never fail me, and I will always know that it will cover my basics. The rest is up to me. I, and millions more, need a basic retirement foundation. Social Security is it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s just one thing to think about: Will we have a Guaranteed retirement benefit? Will our parents have a Guaranteed benefit? It all comes down to that basic idea: A guaranteed benefit for all of us. Social Security is the foundation of our financial security. It isn&#8217;t how we make a million, it is the foundation of our security. Win or lose, we have a check coming to us that will keep us out of poverty when we can no longer work. I know I, for one, am living check to check. I&#8217;d love to save a bit, but it&#8217;s damned hard. I don&#8217;t make much, and I&#8217;m not even paying rent, because I save by living with my parents. How could someone like me, or like you, afford retirement? I hope I can make it even yet, that I can provide for myself and those to come, but if my bets go wrong, thank heaven I have a 100% secure income foundation &#8211; Social Security. It will never fail me, and I will always know that it will cover my basics. The rest is up to me. I, and millions more, need a basic retirement foundation. Social Security is it.</p>
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